I was hoping to evoke some subscriber discussion in an earlier post about the following paragraph, the opening paragraph of The Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner. The issue in that post was its readability level. This passage represents a classic example of all of the problems inherent in the perspective that reading becomes more difficult and challenging as sentences increase in length and words increase in syllables. What makes this perspective self-limiting is this: In the field of reading, the default answer to the question of a passage’s readability is a “grade level.”
Here’s how it works. A passage rated at a third grade level is expected to be “readable” by a student in third grade—provided that the student is in third grade or tests at a “third grade level” on a standardized test of reading comprehension or has a charted competence from a visit to a school psychologist. The rating system is based on the assumption that passages written with longer sentences and longer words are more “difficult” than those written with shorter sentences and words and therefore readable by students in higher grades.
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ME: Here is the passage: “Through the fence, between the curling flower spaces, I could see them hitting. They were coming toward where the flag was and I went along the fence. Luster was hunting in the grass by the flower tree. They took the flag out, and they were hitting. Then they put the flag back and they went to the table, and he hit and the other hit. Then they went on, and I went along the fence. Luster came away from the flower tree and we went along the fence and they stopped and I looked through the fence while Luster was hunting in the grass.”
ChatGPT4.5: Based on the passage you provided, let's analyze it according to your initial counts:
- **Word Count:** The passage has a total of 108 words.
- **Sentence Count:** There are 8 sentences in this passage.
- **Syllable Count:** The total number of syllables is 142.
ME: Can you do a readability analysis and give me a grade level?
ChatGPT4.5: For readability analysis, we can use the Flesch-Kincaid readability tests, which are widely used and recognize two key components: the Flesch Reading-Ease and the Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level. These tests focus on word length and sentence length as proxies for understanding complexity. The formula for the Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level is:
0.39(Total WordsTotal Sentences)+11.8(Total SyllablesTotal Words)−15.59
Given the passage:
- Total Words = 108
- Total Sentences = 8
- Total Syllables = 142
Plugging the numbers into the formula gives us:
0.39×(1088)+11.8×(142108)−15.59=0.39×13.5+11.8×1.315−15.59
=5.265+15.517−15.59=5.192
Rounding to the nearest whole number, the Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level Estimate for the passage is approximately grade level 5. This means the passage should be understandable by an average 5th-grade student in the US education system. It's important to note, this estimate provides a general guide; actual readability can be influenced by factors like familiarity with the passage's content, context understanding, and individual reader differences.
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ME: Please read the paragraph I gave you for comprehension. Do you believe it is readable by a typical fifth grade reader?
ChatGPT4.5: Based on the passage provided, it presents a narrative that is relatively straightforward, with simple sentence structures and easily understandable vocabulary, which are key factors for readability by younger readers, such as those in the fifth grade. The repetition of certain phrases ("along the fence", "hunting in the grass") and actions (mention of "hitting" and movement related to "the flag") can help with comprehension as it reinforces the scene being described, making it more memorable and easier to follow.
However, a few factors might pose challenges for a typical fifth-grade reader:
1. **Context and Clarity**: The passage lacks clear context about who the characters are and what they are doing exactly. The terms "hitting" and "flag" are vague without additional context to clarify whether this is a game, a sport, or another activity. This ambiguity might require readers to infer details not explicitly stated, which can sometimes be challenging for younger readers.
2. **Character Engagement**: There are references to characters ("Luster" and "I") and actions, but there's little emotional engagement or explanation of why these actions are happening. While fifth graders can understand the sentences, they might find it harder to connect with the story due to the lack of detailed character motivation or emotion.
3. **Descriptive language**: While the language is not complex, the passage's descriptive elements are minimal, mostly focusing on actions and movements. A fifth grader might find the passage readable but may not find it engaging without a more vivid description of the setting and characters.
Overall, while a typical fifth-grade reader should be able to read this passage in terms of decoding the words and understanding the basic sentence structure, the enjoyment and full comprehension might be affected by the lack of context and emotional depth. Engaging with this text in a classroom setting could provide an opportunity for discussions about inference, narrative perspective, and narrative clarity, helping students to delve deeper into understanding and connecting with the story beyond its surface readability.
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ME: Could it be read by a tenth grade reader?
ChatGPT4.5: Yes, the passage you're referring to can certainly be read by a tenth-grade reader. By this grade level, students typically have a more advanced reading comprehension skill set, allowing them to understand complex sentence structures, infer meanings from context, and engage with deeper thematic elements of a text.
For a tenth-grade reader, the passage would not only be accessible in terms of readability but might also provide a platform for more sophisticated analysis, such as:
1. **Analyzing Literary Techniques**: Tenth graders can examine Faulkner's use of perspective, narrative style, and language. They would be better equipped to appreciate the subtleties of Faulkner’s writing, such as his use of stream of consciousness or the way he builds character and setting through minimalistic yet evocative language.
2. **Engaging with Themes and Concepts**: Older students can explore deeper themes that may be present in the text or its broader context within "As I Lay Dying." Themes such as family dynamics, death, identity, and the human experience can be more profoundly understood and discussed at this level.
3. **Contextual Understanding**: Students in the tenth grade are more likely to have the historical, cultural, and literary context to place a passage like this within its wider literary movement (Modernism, in Faulkner’s case) and understand its significance in American literature and beyond.
4. **Critical Thinking and Interpretation**: Tenth graders can engage in critical thinking about the text, questioning and interpreting the characters’ actions, motivations, and the underlying messages or critiques Faulkner might be conveying through his narrative choices.
In essence, while the passage may be mechanically easier for a tenth-grade reader due to their advanced reading level, the opportunities for deeper literary analysis and engagement with the text's thematic and stylistic complexities would significantly enhance their reading experience.
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ME: Is there any quantitative method for assessing readability which doesn’t fail to adequately consider the full meaning of “reading ability”?
ChatGPT4.5: Quantitative readability formulas, such as the Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level, Gunning Fog Index, or the Dale-Chall Readability Score, primarily focus on surface characteristics of a text, such as word length, sentence length, or word familiarity. These methods often fall short of fully capturing the complexity of "reading ability" because they do not consider several critical factors:
1. **Contextual Understanding:** The ability to understand the context in which words are used, which can significantly affect meaning, is not measured by these formulas.
2. **Inference:** The capacity to make inferences from text, understanding what is implied but not explicitly stated, is crucial for reading comprehension but not assessed by quantitative methods.
3. **Prior Knowledge:** Readers' background knowledge significantly influences their ability to understand a text. Texts that require specific cultural, historical, or technical knowledge for full comprehension may be accessible to some readers but challenging for others, regardless of the text's quantitative readability score.
4. **Literary Devices:** The use of metaphor, irony, and other literary devices can add layers of meaning to a text that are not accounted for in readability formulas.
5. **Cognitive Abilities:** Differences in individual cognitive abilities, such as working memory capacity and attention span, play a vital role in reading comprehension but are beyond the scope of quantitative assessments.
6. **Motivation and Engagement:** A reader’s interest in the topic and motivation to understand the text can significantly affect comprehension, factors which are not considered in readability formulas.
To more holistically assess reading ability and text complexity, qualitative measures and reader interaction studies are necessary. These might include:
- **Qualitative Assessments:** Evaluating the themes, structure, language, and knowledge demands of a text in relation to specific readers or reader groups.
- **Reader-Text Interactions:** Studies examining how actual readers engage with and understand a given text can provide insights into reading processes that quantitative methods cannot.
- **Performance-Based Assessments:** Tasks that require readers to apply their understanding of a text in new ways or to answer questions that require deep comprehension.
Ultimately, while readability formulas can provide a quick estimate of text complexity, they should be used in conjunction with other methods for a more comprehensive understanding of a text's accessibility and the full breadth of reading ability.
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ME: Can you make a case that they should not be used to revise texts to reflect a higher or lower readability?
ChatGPT4.5: Arguing against the practice of using quantitative readability formulas to revise texts for higher or lower readability levels involves acknowledging the limitations of these formulas and emphasizing the importance of preserving the original complexity and nuances of a text. Here are key points supporting this stance:
1. **Loss of Nuance and Depth:** Quantitative readability formulas measure text complexity based on surface characteristics, such as sentence length and word frequency. Revising texts to align with these metrics can strip away nuanced meaning, literary devices, and the author's original intent, reducing the richness and depth of the material.
2. **Over-Simplification:** Simplifying texts to achieve a lower readability score can lead to an oversimplification of complex ideas, potentially misleading readers or depriving them of the opportunity to engage with challenging material that could stimulate intellectual growth.
3. **Underestimation of Reader Capability:** Adjusting texts based on readability scores underestimates the ability of readers to stretch their understanding and engage with complex material. It assumes a one-size-fits-all approach to reading comprehension that does not account for individual differences in background knowledge, cognitive abilities, and motivation.
4. **Inadequacy for Certain Contexts:** In academic, professional, or specialized contexts, complex ideas often require precise terminology and sophisticated sentence structures that may not conform to lower readability levels. Revising these texts to make them "easier" could compromise their accuracy or the precision of the information conveyed.
5. **Cultural and Contextual Sensitivity:** Texts are often rooted in specific cultural, historical, or situational contexts. Simplifying language or structure to fit readability formulas can erase important cultural nuances and context, potentially rendering the text less meaningful or even offensive to its intended audience.
6. **Ignorance of Pedagogical Goals:** Educationally, encountering challenging texts is crucial for developing critical reading and thinking skills. Revising texts to lower readability levels may hinder this development by not providing enough complexity to challenge students or stimulate learning.
7. **Alternative Strategies for Accessibility:** Rather than simplifying texts, alternative strategies can make complex material more accessible without compromising its integrity. These include providing supporting materials (glossaries, annotations), teaching reading strategies, or using multimedia resources to complement the text and enhance understanding.
In summary, while readability formulas provide useful general insights into text complexity, their limitations and the potential negative consequences of their application argue against their use as the primary tool for revising texts. A more nuanced approach, attentive to the goals of the text and the needs of its audience, is critical for preserving the richness, accuracy, and educational value of written material.
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ME: Is there any potential benefit in teaching students strategies for assessing the readability of a passage on their own?
ChatGPT4.5: Yes, there are several potential benefits in teaching students strategies for assessing the readability of a passage on their own, including:
1. **Increased Comprehension**: By learning how to assess readability, students can select texts that match their reading ability, leading to improved comprehension and a more enjoyable reading experience.
2. **Enhanced Critical Thinking**: This skill encourages students to critically evaluate texts, thinking about the language, structure, and content, which enhances their critical thinking and analytical skills.
3. **Self-directed Learning**: Teaching students to assess readability empowers them to make their own choices about what to read for learning or pleasure, fostering independence and a proactive attitude towards learning.
4. **Adaptability and Flexibility**: Understanding readability helps students adapt their reading strategies according to the text's difficulty. This flexibility is vital for academic success across different subjects and reading contexts.
5. **Improved Academic Performance**: By selecting appropriate materials, students are more likely to grasp and retain information, positively impacting their academic performance.
6. **Enhanced Motivation and Confidence**: When students can successfully understand the texts they read, their motivation and confidence in their reading abilities increase. This can lead to a more positive attitude towards reading and learning in general.
7. **Tool for Life-long Learning**: The ability to assess text complexity is not only useful for academic purposes but also benefits personal and professional life. It's a skill that contributes to ongoing education and informed decision-making.
Incorporating readability assessment strategies into the curriculum can be a powerful way to support students' reading development and overall academic journey.
Where’s the beauty of reading a good narrative come in? 😄
Hi Terry. I was not constructing meaning as I read the Faulkner excerpt. I knew every word. I can spell every word and define every word. What I was missing which prevented me from constructing meaning was the context. Also possibly related to my inability to "understand" what Faulkner wrote was perhaps my lack of background knowledge about the context; perhaps prior knowledge. As a student presented with this text I would have considered myself a failure to understand; I would have possibly concluded that I did not have "the right stuff" to be a successful student in that particular classroom or that possibly reading was not "my thing" and perhaps would never be my thing -- and if I looked around and found my classmates were constructing meaning and discussing the text with confidence I would have sunk even deeper in my seat and would have "checked out" psychologically of the educational venue I was in. This is kind of scary to me -- until I realize that all of my conclusions would have been erroneous and destructive. That discovery about what a student needs to construct meaning would excite me as a teacher because I would understand more profoundly where faux failure comes from and I would have the ability to liberate learners and keep learners on a strong and natural path to full literacy.